What do you think is the most underrated financial advice?
Buy experiences and stuff. If buying a couch makes you happy, buy the couch and be happy! There’s way too much guilt-tripping over the whole minimalism thing.
What’s the worst money advice you’ve ever received?
“All debt is bad.” Ironically, this isn’t just advice I’ve received—I used to offer it to others. I’ve had a change of heart in recent years as I’ve seen how governments and corporations accumulate large amounts of debt without experiencing any serious consequences. Apple, the largest corporation in the world, currently has $100 billion in debt, but it’s also sitting on $200 billion in cash. You might think, wow, why not just pay off the debt? But clearly they know what they’re doing.
There’s more to this argument, of course—I have a whole chapter on it in Gonzo Capitalism. I’m just saying that if you’re in debt, a) you’re not a terrible person, and b) you’re not in the worst position. Pay off and consolidate high-interest debt, but some debt—like a mortgage or car loan—can be a tool to improve your life.
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Would you rather receive a large sum of money all at once or a smaller amount every week or month for life?
If it’s truly guaranteed to last, I’d choose the weekly or monthly option. But finding something that’s truly guaranteed is hard to come by. Insurance companies and multinational financial corporations go bankrupt. Even governments default on their debts at times. Given that reality, I’d choose the lump sum.
What is the biggest misconception people have about growing money?
That all they need to do is save and invest like everyone else, and somehow they’ll be better off than most people. One of the things I stress in the book is: “If you want average results, follow an average system.”
The thing is that systems are designed for average. If you’re running a large company, for example, you need to make sure your policies and procedures can accommodate all of your employees. So that’s fine—but as an individual, you may have different needs and preferences.
That’s how it works with personal finance, too. If your goal is to have an average retirement, there are plenty of average retirement plans that will get you there. Which is fine for many people! If you want to become wealthy, however, you’ll need to do something differently. Most of the time, that means you need to take different kinds of risks in terms of investing, side hustling and so on.
Can you share a money regret?
I paid $32,000 and spent two years studying for a piece of paper that stated I’d earned a graduate degree in international studies. While I’m grateful for parts of the experience, as well as the relationships I formed during that time, overall I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the best investment. And it wasn’t just me—many of the students in my cohort who had a more direct connection between the degree and their careers also seemed dissatisfied in the end.
What does the word “value” mean to you?
In the personal finance world, value means enjoyment. Did I enjoy that purchase? When I think about the amount of money I traded for it, does it seem like a fair trade? If so, great! I really value my time and am a big fan of “buying” it back whenever possible. I work on my laptop in the back of Ubers, I won’t call about small refunds I’m due just because I hate talking on the phone, and so on.