Can Canadian seniors collect government benefits while still working?
Rose is transitioning to semi-retirement at 65, and wonders about the tax and clawback implications of receiving CPP and OAS.
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Rose is transitioning to semi-retirement at 65, and wonders about the tax and clawback implications of receiving CPP and OAS.
Q. This fall, I will celebrate my 65th birthday, and plan to reduce my work hours to three days a week, from my current full-time hours now. I also plan to begin collecting my Canada Pension Plan and Old Age Security benefits—but, at the same time, I want to avoid being taxed on my income if possible. What would you suggest I do?
– Rose
A. From a lifestyle perspective, Rose, I think the phased retirement you’ve opted for is a great way to make the transition from full-time work. Not everyone has the option to go from full- to part-time, but if you can, it’s worth considering.
There is a common misconception that you can’t work while receiving your government pensions, or that there is some sort of reduction or clawback. You can, in fact, receive your Canada Pension Plan (CPP) retirement pension and your Old Age Security (OAS) pension while still working, but there are some important considerations.
You can start CPP as early as age 60; if you’re still working at that point, you need to keep contributing to CPP. If you’re 65 or older, and plan to continue working, you can choose not to contribute to CPP by completing Form CPT30 Election to Stop Contributing to the Canada Pension Plan, or Revocation of a Prior Election. You are not required to contribute to the CPP after age 70, and age 70 is the latest you can defer the start of your pension.
If you haven’t contributed enough to the CPP to receive the maximum benefit, you may opt to continue to contribute after age 65 to enhance your pension. If you are entitled to receive the maximum pension already, oddly, you would need to start your CPP pension to receive any “post-retirement benefit” for contributions you make after turning age 65. (In other words, you would not want to hold off on receiving your CPP benefits.)
OAS is a bit different from CPP. For one, there are no contributions to OAS. And unlike CPP, the earliest you can start your pension is age 65, while the latest you can defer it is age 70. Another consideration is that OAS does have a pension recovery tax, often called a “clawback,” that can reduce your pension income. It doesn’t have anything specifically to do with still working after 65, though, and is simply based upon line 236 (net income) of your T1 tax return.
If this net income—regardless of the source—exceeds $77,580 for the 2019 tax year, there is a pension recovery tax, or clawback, of your OAS for 15 percent of your income exceeding the threshold.
You can choose to defer your CPP or OAS pensions after age 65, Rose. People often feel compelled to begin the pensions because they receive their CPP and OAS applications from Service Canada in the mail prior to their 65th birthday, but you can defer as late as age 70. There is a bigger benefit from deferring your CPP pension (an increase to your benefit of 0.7% per month or 8.4% per year) compared to OAS (an increase to your benefit of 0.6% per month or 7.2% per year) after age 65.
Keep in mind, too, that you don’t need to start both CPP and OAS at the same time. You might consider starting one of your government pensions in the fall, to supplement the 40% reduction in your employment income you’ll experience by moving to part-time hours. You can wait to start your other pension after you’ve fully retired.
Another option could be to start withdrawals from your Registered Retirement Savings Plan (RRSP)* when you transition to part-time employment, instead of or in addition to your CPP and OAS. You can simply take an RRSP withdrawal, but it may also be beneficial to convert your RRSP to a Registered Retirement Income Fund (RRIF).
You see, if you have RRIF income after the age of 65, you can receive a tax credit called the pension income amount for eligible pension income. This will save you between $351 and $449 per year depending on your province or territory of residence. CPP and OAS are not considered eligible pension income for this tax credit, nor are RRSP withdrawals. RRIF withdrawals, however, are eligible.
RRIF withdrawals you take after age 65 are also eligible for pension income splitting, whereby up to 50% can be moved from your tax return to your spouse’s tax return. This splitting happens on your tax return and gives you the opportunity to decide retroactively if transferring some of your RRIF income to your spouse, up to the 50% maximum, can save you tax as a couple.
If you expect to have a long retirement, and especially if you don’t have other defined benefit pension income from an employer, that can be an even more compelling reason to defer your CPP pension, OAS pension, or both pensions, until after 65. If you take RRIF withdrawals to supplement your part-time employment income, that will draw down your relatively risky retirement income (investments), while your guaranteed retirement income (CPP and OAS) is allowed to keep on increasing. Your CPP and OAS are inflation protected, and you will keep receiving them even if you live to 110. Your investments may not provide that same inflation or longevity protection.
With regards to your concern about owing tax on your CPP or OAS income, unlike employment income, there is no tax automatically withheld on your CPP or OAS pensions. You can opt to have tax withheld if you’d like.
In summary, Rose, you can start your CPP and OAS pensions at 65, while still working, and you may not lose any if you don’t have a high income subjecting you to OAS clawback. You may or may not want to continue contributing to CPP, but you must submit paperwork to stop contributing. And you may benefit from deferring your CPP, OAS, or both, but need to consider whether to start your RRIF withdrawals now or defer.
Jason Heath is a fee-only, advice-only Certified Financial Planner (CFP) at Objective Financial Partners Inc. in Toronto. He does not sell any financial products whatsoever.
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I am 66yrs. Still working full time and
Collecting cop/OAS.
LAID off due to Clovis.
Can I apply for EI?
Can I collect ei while collecting oats and cpp.
66yrs Still work, but laid off.
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I am 62 yrs. I receive CPP & work
part time 22-24 hours due COVID-19
do I qualify CERB.
Thanx
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What happen if u r married or common law to a younger lady or man and u r both on ddpw disability welfare and he or she turns 63 and has to get old age benefits does the partner gets their own welfare how does this work do I have get my own file
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if i retire at 65 and collect my full pension can i still continue to work a full time job without it affecting my monthly pension or is there a limit as to how many hours you can work a week so as not to lose any monies from your pension
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I am 68 years old and still working. I am thinking of retiring at the end of the year. What is a better move, wait to start my OAS and CPP by my next birthday (May) or if I leave at the end of 2020 should I apply immediately? I hear so many different opinions and not sure what is the best move. Does it make a difference financially one way verses another? I will not be receiving a pension of any kind through my work.
Hi Darlene,
Thanks for reading. While we can’t answer personal questions here in the comments, this recent article by CFP Allan Norman might help: https://www.moneysense.ca/columns/ask-moneysense/the-upside-to-waiting-until-age-70-to-take-cpp-benefits/
I started collecting my cpp at age 60. I am now 65 and still working. I have payed into cpp right through and am still going to work another year. Will my post retirement benefit still increase if I keep paying into cpp for another year or so or will it not increase anymore.
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hi i am 71 years old and still working at a union job i am wondering which gorverment stopped my benefit plan at work at age of70 and pension plan at 71 i am a tax payer and now have to pay for my own benefits and no pension contributions
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Why do I have to leave my present employer when taking cop at 60.
May I return to same employer eventually, after drawing first payment of Canada pension.
Hi
I started working full time at 18 in 1983. I turned 65 in Aug 2020. I unfortunately had a stroke in 2013 and have not been able to to work full time since then. I started with a company disability income in 2013 which ended after 2 years and switched to Canada Disability income then 2015. I could not work at all in the first 5 years and any after that it was not medically or financially possibly. At this time, Apr/21, my doctors say I should be able to work part time minimally. Are there penalties to my CPP and OAS if I go back to work ? I have been so conscious of how if I can or can’t work from a government income aspect for so long and I keep getting conflicting advice from friends (well intentioned) and professional (bankers etc) and I am basically frozen in what I can/want to do.
Any comments would be appreciated
I am 71 years old and started receiving my OAS & CPP pension last March. I am still actively working in an industry that pays a higher than average wage and desire to do so at least for the next year.
I am still having EI deducted from my weekly cheques but not CPP – can I elect to have CPP deducted and if so, is there any benefit to my CPP pension?
I have to declare my OAS/CPP benefits when I’m receiving EI so they reduce my bi-weekly benefit.
I m 62 years old and worked part time for 37 years How much cop am I entitle to
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Hi I just started my Old Age Pension I turned 65, and have been out of work for 6 months due COVID where I worked part time. The company just gave me a call saying They want me back. I’d be working 10am2pm Saturday $ Sundays.
Will this affect my pension.
Roy
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I at the age of 75 collecting both Canada pensions have been offered a job. How many hours and wages am I allowed to work and earn before it affects my pension income?
Can I still collect my survivor pension while collecting OAS and CPP
Turned 72 this year still working full time am currently receiving CPP and OAS
company i am working for is downsizing am I eligible for unemployment insurance